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By  4antje at 16:49 on 11/03/10

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    Enough time has now passed to show that lights are not needed at this junction.
    However, what is urgently needed are :   ZEBRA CROSSINGS for pedestrians and GIVE WAY LINES for the drivers.   None of these would cost a lot and would help everyone.     
    So, please, who ever can make these decision, pull your fingers out and finish the work!
    4antje.

    By  4antje at 16:49 on 11/03/10

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    But if the pedestrians already have priority, why do they need zebra crossings ?

    By  numberVl at 21:00 on 11/03/10

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    I believe all junctions/road markings should take into consideration someone coming across them FOR THE FIRST TIME.

    Everyone in P'Head might realise that Pedestrians have priority, but would a newbie to the town? Is there anything there to let drivers know?

    By  FourFerrets at 21:06 on 17/03/10

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    YES , There are BIG red signs telling them that the pedestrians have priority, and also there is no vehicular right of way.  If any motorists cannot understand the meaning of them they really aught to hang up their car keys and buy a pair of walking boots. Looks like I now have an answer to my earlier question as to why we need a zebra crossing - because  SOME PEOPLE DON'T BOTHER TO READ THE BIG RED SIGNS .

    By  numberVl at 22:33 on 17/03/10

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    I don't ride up Wyndham way often, or Cabstand or High Street. TBH I haven't noticed the signs, but do look for pedestrians.
    I ride a motorcycle and have to keep an eye on what's around me ESPECIALLY at junctions as some car drivers just are not THAT observant.
    Shall keep my eye out next time I'm being chauffered in the car :P

    By  FourFerrets at 22:57 on 17/03/10

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    From your comments it would appear that some motorcyclists aren't that observant either. I'd suggest you either try to buy or borrow a copy of the Blue Book. It should help you brush up on your observational skills. That way you'll get to see the bigger picture including the bad car drivers, the naughty pedestrians and the helpful road signs ;)

    By  numberVl at 23:45 on 17/03/10

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    Who said pedestrians were naughty? I am well aware that peds in P'Head are likely to be slower, either through shopping or age! I am quite happy to stop for them. NO revving of engines and tutting from me!

    I have always try to be a considerate rider (not perfect by any means) must be my age!!

    I guess like 99% of people I 'switch off' on familiar roads. You watch out for what you know is there or likely to be.

    By  FourFerrets at 00:36 on 18/03/10

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    Generally Wyndham Way is a race track used by people trying to beat down the car on the left but as that is a police matter and most of the cars are well known high speed luxury items or wrecks with super engines and one could arrest 14 a day, the prisons would never stand it; I hope they drive off the edge into the Bear Pond with the rest of the sludge thrown in there by people's children smashing glass bottles dropped by the Pub. Eventually Portishead  will drown under bottles, cans, takeaway rubbish, muck and rotted cars from crashes and the swans will relocate to a Kirstie and Phil sourced  haven at wildlife officer's expense. That way the Local Authority and the River Authority win, case proven and the people who cause the trouble bitch the most. Alternatively it could be returned to a coal line and depot and trains drop piles of it for the power station and house fires for winter, thus reducing car speeds. And providing employment for people who drop rubbish about the place, shovelling. It is too dangerous to drive fast up and down Wyndham you may well crash on a hole or a turning the wrong way driver or junk dropped that rips your tyres out. We do not need police stingers the place is self controlling except at the Lights where cars rip through at top speed as people cross over.

    By  MikeHydroSoil at 00:47 on 18/03/10

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    I can think of lots of things the planners, police and Local Authority Highways could do to control Cabstand High Street Harbour and Wyndham, not building Wyndham would have been one of them, and securing that awful roundabout where people are cut in half at the Vale Bear Inn turning for child care centres, by fast track drivers mainly women !!, having been in a car that nearly killed a person on a zebra crossing in Clevedon once and then the driver ranted about the police officer motorcyclist who pulled her down and lost one school friend later police officer motorcyclist to an unknown in Somerset and two others on local roads I have less sympathy than the local rats about this issue, but I am not a transport planner, nor engineer and they sweat over the subject every week. Perhaps we should all carry police mobile cameras attached to our front screens with computer data and dates times ?  Somedays I wish.

    By  MikeHydroSoil at 00:56 on 18/03/10

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    20 mph would be a good one and 15 mph in the town street.

    By  MikeHydroSoil at 00:58 on 18/03/10

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    Today I puposefully kept an eye out for that BIG red sign. I was a passenger.
    In the distance I spotted a little red blur.
    Once we drew close enough for me to read it, I realised it was a 3 lined sentence! How many people in moving traffic at regular speed keeping an eye on the road, traffic, pedestrians, dogs and flapping Mcdonalds wrappers have time to read an essay?

    Wouldn't a simple 3 words suffice? or was the sign writer paid per word?

    By  FourFerrets at 20:32 on 30/03/10

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    Hi

    If the proposed pedestrian crossings go ahead, will this still not cause a bottle neck as did the traffic control signals?

    On busy days hundreds of crossings will take place, it a standard give way style zebra crossing is installed (as i believe it is) then we will undoubtedly see further congestion occurring as motorists and pedestrians juggle for priority.

    By  chrishauk at 11:37 on 11/04/10

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    Well I have been away for a while but have returned to a comment in the local paper from "Rog " i will save portishead" who from his shop's view has decided that people speed and we need Zebra crossings on the top of speed bumps. Both at the bottom of cabstand and across station road, why stop there, lets have a couple more in the middle of the high street, crossing wyndham way, out side the football club, my I could go on for ages. Speed bumps thats what we need, loads of them all over thae place so that they destroy the suspension of the the cars on the roads and adds further to the cost of the car user.

    Lets have some like the ones near waitrose that have no signage or paint on at all....no chance of seeing them.......and they do rattle the wheels when you hit one of them............ stop nanying us all all of the time stop it there is no need, no one has been knocked down at the bottom of cabstand, the police have not erected a speed check as there is no chance of making any money from it, so the speeders cannot be that many or that often. 

    Zebra YES  speed bumps NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    By  suttssutts at 18:44 on 15/04/10

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    I have an in-car video camera fitted to my car and keep it on whenever I am driving.To see some of the incidents I have come across in and around Portishead go to Youtube and type in 'nsomersetdriving' Most of the incidents are at mini roundabouts, none at the cabstand yet, but surely only a matter of time

    By  1stRateDrivin at 22:12 on 15/04/10

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    I use cabstand twice daily. Ever since the lights were gone, it's been brilliant to use. Yes, sadly I've noticed a small proportion (often vans), who decide they are definitely not stopping heading from wyndham to town centre. However, even with that occasional hazard the junction flows far better. There are two specific issues that can cause problems, especially on Saturdays. One is Waitrose garage-somehow they need more room for cars to pull in as the queue can slow up the entire junction. Two, twice I've had a pedestrian just appear crossing from Waitrose to say, Nortech. The second one came within an inch of my wing mirrow and left me with a case of Tourrettes. I personally feel here that pedestrians right have priority, and should cross at highly visible specific points. The notices dictating pedestrian right of way need to be far far clearer, and briefer so that mistakes can't be made in a rush. Most folks use this junction in a fair and reasonable manner. My own approach when I come home is, I can see the car coming from either side from way back, so I can see who has already waited for others. I always deliberately stop and give them the turn. I suspect a fair proportion of drivers do something similar (locals anyway!). Overall, despite the niggles, this arrangement appears to have had the best effect on the flow there. Apart from the damned 3 way lights that are there right now-seems to be a lot of roadworks there since the lights were turned off!

    By  SoulFireMage at 16:23 on 17/06/10

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